Those of you who read my last post: "Animation the dying art form", might find it interesting that I also think that animation was also the most perfect art form.
In its most idyllic form.
Why.
Because it is the combination of ALL art forms.
Think about it.
All the development art, using everything from pastels to watercolors and pen and ink, YOU NAME IT! Acting and performance (THROUGH drawings)
Draughtsmanship, line quality, cinematic story telling, color and design, background and camera technique, post production and editing, rough sketch to the most elegant tight cleanup.
An art form where you have to study everything from dance and music to the way a woman walks or how a fat man picks his butt. Where you study the way animals move and behave so you can capture that in rough sketch form, to look at it and (hopefully) capture it so believably that you forget that you are looking at drawings. DRAWINGS!
Much like a symphony led by the conductor (director) conducting the trumpets, violins, oboes (development teams , animators, clean-up/inbetweeners), and of course, the triangle (storyboard artists-).
>:)
People from all departments coming together to communicate and create (again, hopefully) a fantastic piece of cinema. A fantastic piece of art.
Yup. Animation is to me the most perfect and complete art form.
Or rather, it USED to be.
Now again, don't get me wrong. I am not anti modern animation. In fact I think that its theatrically great now. Just as great if not even greater on some levels. But as I said in my previous post, the introduction of technology in such a massive way, while keeping the entertainment level on high, it has lowered the art form.
As an animator, I look at what we can do now, and it staggers me! We are no longer subject to the 2 dimensional. No longer chained to the flat world that we animate to. We have wide open skies to soar in and that's pretty frickin' insane to think about.
But....
While wonderful, I can in no way say that this is the most perfect and highest of all art forms. It simply isn't. While (theatrically speaking) there is no way to deny its benefits, ARTISTICALLY speaking it is on a par with high end 'Muzak'.
Those of you who know me, might find it staggering that I would say that. And even more so staggering to hear that I still LOVE animation...as a cinema and entertainment.
Sadly...not so much as an art form that it once was.
I know that there will be those that will say: "Handel, you ponce! There are still the designs that are drawn. Still the models that must be built, rigged, textured and painted!"
Believe me, I know. But while traditionally, animation was the marriage of so many great artists. great at what they do, following eachother up, all coming together. Today, It is the blend of some artist and allot of technical people. Sort of like a marriage of artist with allot of mechanics.
Don't get me wrong...I think on many levels that programmers and texture people are 'artists' in their own right. But the very fact that every bit of work that they do, be it texturing, programming, rigging, model building, etc.....doesn't exist.
Other than what is up on the screen...It does not exist.
And that now applies to the animation as well.
With that..how could anyone doubt that the 'ART FORM' has taken a hit. Has been lowered.
Of course it has.
It is not just in animation. Take what I MYSELF do. I do ALOT of work via my 'painter' and 'photoshop' programs. As with animation, you don't put on a tin foil hat and plug the computer into your noggin and say "PAINT". You actually paint it. Using all the techniques that you normally do in traditional mediums. You put just as much blood sweat and (well...less tears because their are so many fail safes with the tech). But your outcome...if you know what your doing will be a fine painting.
The difference is ...Unlike an oil, watercolor, or acrylic......your digital painting doesn't exist.
Just like the digital animation.
Oh it exists via whats on your monitor...and sure... You can make wonderful high end prints. EVEN stretch it on a canvas....but its not real. It doesn't exist.
I hear you arguing with me out there. Tell me...
What would you rather have? A beautiful high end PRINT of a Degas? OR an actual Degas?
A PRINT of a Jim Lee Batman? OR an actual pencil/inked Jim Lee Batman?
A PRINT of Frank Frazetta painting? OR an actual Frank Frazetta painting?
A PRINT of a Glen Keane 'Beast'? OR an actual Key from the movie?
You get me now?
Beauler?
Mcfly?
With the absence of the organic...then how can the ART FORM be anything BUT lessened.
So with the heavy development of technology today and our heavy desire to use it, the animator in me laughs with excitement. But the artist that I hope to aspire to be someday, cries for what was once, "the perfect art form".
Monday, October 29, 2007
Well...
I got the family on the 'j' train and sent them back to 'family land'. I also have tomorrow off so I'm going to sit down and jot my next post tonight and plunk it down for tomorrow. I looked at my last post and thought that It deserved a follow up.
So check it when it comes..
So check it when it comes..
Sunday, October 14, 2007
Animation: The dying artform.
Oooo. Ominous no?
When I was a Kid, Like many I grew up on a steady diet of TWO things.
Comics and Animation.
I'm glad to say that I worked in animation when they were going through the so called 'second golden age'.
When I was but a wee tot. I got a very special Christmas present. A first edition volume of "The Illusion of life". I looked through this book and was shell-shocked at these beautiful drawings. These fantastic and gorgeously rendered line drawings, that when placed one in front of the other created a movement.
It blew my mind at a young age, to see rough pencil tests. It really was ...magic.
Now you may remember the dust up that I had with my story guy goobers. I had said that while there is no 'easy' position in animation, that I believed that storyboarding was the easier of all positions because there just isn't as much demands on them as the other positions.
You didn't have to draw on 'model' and really there is not much use for them to draw all that pretty either. And when the technology comes crashing in, all the traditional animators had to make the jump!
And jump QUICK. So they had to learn the technology fast and shoot for the open positions.
Another example of the lack of demands on the story man camp. Not meant as a dig, but it is another thing that they don't have to worry about.
And that brings us (FINALLY) to the title of this post.
With traditional animation, the sky is the limit. You can do ANYTHING.
With the technology now...the universe is wide open.
But with the tech today, Sadly while opening up the possibilities, It lowers the art form.
It does.
And on a few levels as well.
Gone is everything organic about the art form.
NO roughs.
NO keys, NO beautiful key Cleanups, or inbetweens.
NOTHING tangible for students to look at or collectors to seek out. Nothing of substance, to frame and get lost in the real HISTORY of it.
"How many hands did this pass through?" "WHOSE hands did it pass through?"
"Look at the tape on the corner? Maybe it was taped on Fred's Wall!"
Nope.
No warmth.
No history.
No magic.
The most someone can hope for to look at or collect is something from development, and even that's pared down some due to technology-In way of painter and photo shop brushes and tools.
You could possibly get a lovely storyboard panel. IF your lucky to get one that IS indeed lovely.
Now don't get me wrong. I am not a uni bomber type. I am not anti technology. As I am someone that uses it every day in the work that I do. And yeah...some of the same things I'm talking about apply there as well. Not as much though, as I'll explain in a different post.
Again, I am not anti technology...I'm just pointing out a fact of the anim biz now. The sacrifice, for the gain.
I am just not sure if the sacrifices are worth the gains.
For the public OR the individual 'artist'.
I have always said, (again..to the consternation of industry friends) that: "There are far too many animators in this field and not enough artists." With animation going almost entirely digital now, It applies NOW more than ever.
Along with the loss of the tangibles, there is the danger of the animator losing his grasp on the basics. Lets count off some of these.
*He no longer needs to work on draughtsmanship.
*He no longer needs to study line quality.
*He no longer needs to draw on model.
*He is no longer challenged to keep up with the big boys in drawing their characters. (therefore growth!)
*He no longer has to learn and practice structure and volume!
*ALL this while knowing that each drawing is important to the ANIMATION, all of which cypher into the all important performance.
In short...He no longer (beyond thumbnails sketches) is required to DRAW anymore.
Some of these VERY SAME things were what I was slamming at the story goobers about. The story guy isnt CALLED to draw on model, or even well. With technology...the same thing can now be said about animators.
And thats not good folks.
NOPE! The animator just needs to concentrate on the performance in the acting. And the movement of the animation.
Now surly there will be animators out there that will say: "Handel...DUDE. Chill brah. I can still keep drawing. On my own time. ON my own stuff. Ya dig?"
But as an animator, I know that I personally would go in, wrap my left half of my buttock around the left side of the chair and wrap the right side of my buttock (my personal favorite side-birthmark.) around the right side of the chair...and there I would be till it was time to go home. Then I would PEEEEEEEEEEEEEL my booty off of that poor dented and somewhat rank chair (don't know why), go home and animate for a few more hours sometimes. In other words, there ain't a whole lot of spare time to do extra anything. And the spare time that you DO have...you want to do anything else other than draw.
Now to some animators, they'll say..."Well cool! cut out the middle man and concentrate on the important thing. The performance!!!
And therein lies the crux of what my original point is.
Yes. You can concentrate on the movement.
Yes. You can concentrate on the performance. All without having to worry about staying on model OR volume or about any charting for follow up.
But IF you are doing all of that WITHOUT having to draw anymore, you may well turn into a fantastic animator. But you are not furthering your artistic chops.
IN SHORT, to quote a wise man:
"There are far too many animators in this animation industry and not enough artists"
(Oh wait, that was ME.)
If you do NOT keep on drawing (Be it digital or traditional) Your ARTISTIC skills will falter.
Dat's fact jak.'
And as long as that continues to be the case, the films will be loverly indeed. With nice slick 3d(ish) animation. All of which is only 'animation'. With nothing to see, nothing to hold, nothing to study, Nothing to love OTHER than the animation of the film. Coming from animators who do 80% LESS drawing than they USED TO do, and whose artistic abilities because of that...decline further and further....
....In this industry called "Animation". The dying art form.
When I was a Kid, Like many I grew up on a steady diet of TWO things.
Comics and Animation.
I'm glad to say that I worked in animation when they were going through the so called 'second golden age'.
When I was but a wee tot. I got a very special Christmas present. A first edition volume of "The Illusion of life". I looked through this book and was shell-shocked at these beautiful drawings. These fantastic and gorgeously rendered line drawings, that when placed one in front of the other created a movement.
It blew my mind at a young age, to see rough pencil tests. It really was ...magic.
Now you may remember the dust up that I had with my story guy goobers. I had said that while there is no 'easy' position in animation, that I believed that storyboarding was the easier of all positions because there just isn't as much demands on them as the other positions.
You didn't have to draw on 'model' and really there is not much use for them to draw all that pretty either. And when the technology comes crashing in, all the traditional animators had to make the jump!
And jump QUICK. So they had to learn the technology fast and shoot for the open positions.
Another example of the lack of demands on the story man camp. Not meant as a dig, but it is another thing that they don't have to worry about.
And that brings us (FINALLY) to the title of this post.
With traditional animation, the sky is the limit. You can do ANYTHING.
With the technology now...the universe is wide open.
But with the tech today, Sadly while opening up the possibilities, It lowers the art form.
It does.
And on a few levels as well.
Gone is everything organic about the art form.
NO roughs.
NO keys, NO beautiful key Cleanups, or inbetweens.
NOTHING tangible for students to look at or collectors to seek out. Nothing of substance, to frame and get lost in the real HISTORY of it.
"How many hands did this pass through?" "WHOSE hands did it pass through?"
"Look at the tape on the corner? Maybe it was taped on Fred's Wall!"
Nope.
No warmth.
No history.
No magic.
The most someone can hope for to look at or collect is something from development, and even that's pared down some due to technology-In way of painter and photo shop brushes and tools.
You could possibly get a lovely storyboard panel. IF your lucky to get one that IS indeed lovely.
Now don't get me wrong. I am not a uni bomber type. I am not anti technology. As I am someone that uses it every day in the work that I do. And yeah...some of the same things I'm talking about apply there as well. Not as much though, as I'll explain in a different post.
Again, I am not anti technology...I'm just pointing out a fact of the anim biz now. The sacrifice, for the gain.
I am just not sure if the sacrifices are worth the gains.
For the public OR the individual 'artist'.
I have always said, (again..to the consternation of industry friends) that: "There are far too many animators in this field and not enough artists." With animation going almost entirely digital now, It applies NOW more than ever.
Along with the loss of the tangibles, there is the danger of the animator losing his grasp on the basics. Lets count off some of these.
*He no longer needs to work on draughtsmanship.
*He no longer needs to study line quality.
*He no longer needs to draw on model.
*He is no longer challenged to keep up with the big boys in drawing their characters. (therefore growth!)
*He no longer has to learn and practice structure and volume!
*ALL this while knowing that each drawing is important to the ANIMATION, all of which cypher into the all important performance.
In short...He no longer (beyond thumbnails sketches) is required to DRAW anymore.
Some of these VERY SAME things were what I was slamming at the story goobers about. The story guy isnt CALLED to draw on model, or even well. With technology...the same thing can now be said about animators.
And thats not good folks.
NOPE! The animator just needs to concentrate on the performance in the acting. And the movement of the animation.
Now surly there will be animators out there that will say: "Handel...DUDE. Chill brah. I can still keep drawing. On my own time. ON my own stuff. Ya dig?"
But as an animator, I know that I personally would go in, wrap my left half of my buttock around the left side of the chair and wrap the right side of my buttock (my personal favorite side-birthmark.) around the right side of the chair...and there I would be till it was time to go home. Then I would PEEEEEEEEEEEEEL my booty off of that poor dented and somewhat rank chair (don't know why), go home and animate for a few more hours sometimes. In other words, there ain't a whole lot of spare time to do extra anything. And the spare time that you DO have...you want to do anything else other than draw.
Now to some animators, they'll say..."Well cool! cut out the middle man and concentrate on the important thing. The performance!!!
And therein lies the crux of what my original point is.
Yes. You can concentrate on the movement.
Yes. You can concentrate on the performance. All without having to worry about staying on model OR volume or about any charting for follow up.
But IF you are doing all of that WITHOUT having to draw anymore, you may well turn into a fantastic animator. But you are not furthering your artistic chops.
IN SHORT, to quote a wise man:
"There are far too many animators in this animation industry and not enough artists"
(Oh wait, that was ME.)
If you do NOT keep on drawing (Be it digital or traditional) Your ARTISTIC skills will falter.
Dat's fact jak.'
And as long as that continues to be the case, the films will be loverly indeed. With nice slick 3d(ish) animation. All of which is only 'animation'. With nothing to see, nothing to hold, nothing to study, Nothing to love OTHER than the animation of the film. Coming from animators who do 80% LESS drawing than they USED TO do, and whose artistic abilities because of that...decline further and further....
....In this industry called "Animation". The dying art form.
Thursday, October 11, 2007
Jeez! You sit down to write a quick post on animation...
And that 'quick post' turns into a friggin TWO parter. So I'm going to have to do some editing on it.It might still be a two parter, but at least it'll be pared down abit.
So until then, I'll put up a 'short' little PRE- animation post.
I saw a little bit from robo regarding my post to him about a possible meet up at the con. Hopefully both our schedules will allow it. Who knows.
Robo::
"""Oh yeah, our old friend Handel written me....and has either invited me to dinner or challenged me to a fight. If Handel and I ever do meet in real life, I'm sure we'll be civil. Nobody "swings on" anyone in real life.""""
Yeah. I'm sure we will. Although I would have a drink. Just to be loosey goosey. No reason to get in each others face right off the bat. Which while 'swinging' would more than likely not happen, getting in each others face is entirely possible. Truthfully, If a brawl did break out, more than likely it would resemble the 'walk off' fight in "Zoolander".
And we would somehow end up covered in Salad, which would be odd since neither of us would be eating salad. And odder still, Robo's pants would be unzipped. (Trust me on this...I don't know why. It's his trademark fighting style. He calls it "ruddy Eskimo style". I call it "ew").
Robo:::
""""Nobody "swings on" anyone in real life...well, except Danny Bonaduce. And Handel is NOT Danny Bonaduce. Or Russel Crowe or even Jon Lovitz. Trust me.""
This is...thankfully true. But If I WERE Danny Bonaduce, that would make robo my: Johnny Fairplay!
If I WERE Russel Crowe, that would make robo..every J.O. in the known world.
If I WERE Jon Lovitz, that would make robo: Andy Dick!
Well...At least the last name is most fitting.
robo::
"""..Then he quit posting and would only comment from the relative safety of his blog. I started "Pointed Stick" to argue with his because I didn't want to clutter up this place with arguments that had nothing to do with the strip."""
Robo..Please. "Relative safety of his blog"? Robo....you make it sound as if I am running from any sort of debate you might have to offer. Nothing could be further from the truth. Anytime you wanna debate anything....A N Y T H I N G. I'm right here.
In fact its quite the opposite, it is you that is the one that cant seem to keep up. But I'm patient robo. Very very patient.
And to clarify again (I often have to repeat myself in your case), I stopped posting on your bloggy because as I said...IF I'm going to have THIS blog, I just couldn't spend that much time posting on other blogs AND this one. Its just not possible. Plus that just gets people reading YOUR blog to see what I HAVE to say. No point really. THIS WAY- we both have our say. And also...In all honesty, I really did see your point when you said that it took too much of your comments section. So I stopped. I can say everything I need to say...RIGHT HERE. And say it I do.
robo::
"" After a while, it just felt futile, and I lost interest. Also, calmer heads here at work said that I shouldn't even bother and that Handel wasn't worth the effort.""
I fully agree! Not worth the effort! Not in the slightest. I just calls em' as I see's em. Pansies and p&^&^%$'ies. I'll leave it to you and countsy to figure out which of you is which.
But please...Realize that I mean this in a very loving and warm way.
robo::
""" I checked out his blog on Sunday out of habit and saw his little drunken invitation to the dance.""
Oh robo. Two glasses of wine hardly make for 'drunken'. At least for most people (lightweight).
And I didn't invite you to a 'dance'. It was an invite to a drink, perhaps some noodle salad, a slab of jerky..maybe some nachos(mmm nachos). NOT a 'dance'.
Or are you using hip, youngster lingo? I truly HOPE you think that I was inviting you to a 'dance', because after someone adopts the youngster lingo, then you start buying jazzy sports cars, and then big gawdy silver belt buckles that say "MANSTER". And a leather jacket with a giant eagle embroidered on the back. Perhaps some 'gator' boots!
Oh robo...say it ain't so. Say it ain't so.
robo::
""""I don't think I'll be taking an entire evening to dine with Handel, as I'd much rather spend those evenings with my lovely wife,..."""
OK EVERYONE! THAT'S OUR CUE! ALL TOGETHER NOW!
""AAAAAAAAAAAWWWWWWWWW!""
Seriously, that's very sweet. And I can fully understand that! Trust me. There are more pleasant ways for me to spend an evening as well. Like clenching my fist, carefully placing razor blades between each of my clenched fingers, and trying to swallow my entire hand. Blades and all.
But It is my way to reaching out to the intellectually challenged. I'm looking to help you out. I got to thinkin' about your musical theories. You know? Where you listen to the 'spin doctors' and think your a surgeon? Or listen to Miles Davis and then believe your a trumpet player? Yeah, that!
Well...I'm a'thinkin that maybe...JUST MAYBE mind you...Maybe if you hang out with me for like 10 minutes, that a little bit of me might rub off on ya! And you will hopefully be able to think clearly. Just a little bit. Well...that's my hope. A dream? Maybe. I just want the best for ya robo.
10 minutes might be too short, but we'll do what we can. (just don't go all 'ruddy Eskimo' on me).
robo::
"""...but we just might run into each other. If we do, it'll be interesting!"""
Well of course! I'm a very interesting fellow. Which means, that YOU wont be the one that falls asleep at dinner.
Mark Kennedy:::
"""You are right about Handel's artistic criticisms: they were always interesting and I enjoyed them. I am sorry to see that it turned so bad.""
Mark! Don't be sorry pallie. Nothing 'turned bad'. Its all good. Its just what it is. Ya know? You are a kind and oh so gentle soul. And if it were possible, I would hold you up (as in roots) and say to the Heavens, "THIS!! THIS OH LORD!! IS A GOOD AND DECENT FELLOW! KIND, GENTLE, WITH GOOD BLOG!! AND SMELLS OF LILACS AND DAFFODILS!"
But that would require me having to shower and put on pants and maybe shave (my neck and half my back and surprisingly my left foot-don't ask). More work than I think would be worth the effort I'm afraid.
countsy:::
"""You know there's no way in hell I can stay away from Comicon next year now. I'm going with three margaritas in me!!! Kick ass recap man!""
(Note to self....checklist for con.
Clean pair of man panties?: CHECK!
Toothbrush?: CHECK!
Taser?: CHECK!
Hacksaw?: CHECK!
Garbage bags?: CHECK!
Clear rout to ocean marked out?:CHECK!
Visa card ready to buy round of drinks for bar patrons, to celebrate the cleaning of the city of unsightly mess. Aw, what the heck- TWO rounds and nachos.: CHECK!!
scrblls::
""Seriously you guys should hug or something!""
gareth:
"" Handel... what a guy! I hoping you guys hug and make up.""
WOW! There seems to be allot of GUYS wanting to see us get all huggy up on each other robo!Well...these ARE your pals. (Ahem)
I'm remembering that photo of countsy and robo..hugging.
One guy looked all too willing to get cuddly and cozy, and the other looked as if he were made of wood! Very uncomfortable with the huggy's! Or so it seemed from the pic.
So what do ya say, robo? You wanna get all huggy baby's? I don't know, maybe. You ARE A SAN-FRAN MAN now.
COUGH COUGH COUGHruddyeskimoCOUGH COUGH COUGH!!
So that's that. Post coming soon..On animation.
So until then, I'll put up a 'short' little PRE- animation post.
I saw a little bit from robo regarding my post to him about a possible meet up at the con. Hopefully both our schedules will allow it. Who knows.
Robo::
"""Oh yeah, our old friend Handel written me....and has either invited me to dinner or challenged me to a fight. If Handel and I ever do meet in real life, I'm sure we'll be civil. Nobody "swings on" anyone in real life.""""
Yeah. I'm sure we will. Although I would have a drink. Just to be loosey goosey. No reason to get in each others face right off the bat. Which while 'swinging' would more than likely not happen, getting in each others face is entirely possible. Truthfully, If a brawl did break out, more than likely it would resemble the 'walk off' fight in "Zoolander".
And we would somehow end up covered in Salad, which would be odd since neither of us would be eating salad. And odder still, Robo's pants would be unzipped. (Trust me on this...I don't know why. It's his trademark fighting style. He calls it "ruddy Eskimo style". I call it "ew").
Robo:::
""""Nobody "swings on" anyone in real life...well, except Danny Bonaduce. And Handel is NOT Danny Bonaduce. Or Russel Crowe or even Jon Lovitz. Trust me.""
This is...thankfully true. But If I WERE Danny Bonaduce, that would make robo my: Johnny Fairplay!
If I WERE Russel Crowe, that would make robo..every J.O. in the known world.
If I WERE Jon Lovitz, that would make robo: Andy Dick!
Well...At least the last name is most fitting.
robo::
"""..Then he quit posting and would only comment from the relative safety of his blog. I started "Pointed Stick" to argue with his because I didn't want to clutter up this place with arguments that had nothing to do with the strip."""
Robo..Please. "Relative safety of his blog"? Robo....you make it sound as if I am running from any sort of debate you might have to offer. Nothing could be further from the truth. Anytime you wanna debate anything....A N Y T H I N G. I'm right here.
In fact its quite the opposite, it is you that is the one that cant seem to keep up. But I'm patient robo. Very very patient.
And to clarify again (I often have to repeat myself in your case), I stopped posting on your bloggy because as I said...IF I'm going to have THIS blog, I just couldn't spend that much time posting on other blogs AND this one. Its just not possible. Plus that just gets people reading YOUR blog to see what I HAVE to say. No point really. THIS WAY- we both have our say. And also...In all honesty, I really did see your point when you said that it took too much of your comments section. So I stopped. I can say everything I need to say...RIGHT HERE. And say it I do.
robo::
"" After a while, it just felt futile, and I lost interest. Also, calmer heads here at work said that I shouldn't even bother and that Handel wasn't worth the effort.""
I fully agree! Not worth the effort! Not in the slightest. I just calls em' as I see's em. Pansies and p&^&^%$'ies. I'll leave it to you and countsy to figure out which of you is which.
But please...Realize that I mean this in a very loving and warm way.
robo::
""" I checked out his blog on Sunday out of habit and saw his little drunken invitation to the dance.""
Oh robo. Two glasses of wine hardly make for 'drunken'. At least for most people (lightweight).
And I didn't invite you to a 'dance'. It was an invite to a drink, perhaps some noodle salad, a slab of jerky..maybe some nachos(mmm nachos). NOT a 'dance'.
Or are you using hip, youngster lingo? I truly HOPE you think that I was inviting you to a 'dance', because after someone adopts the youngster lingo, then you start buying jazzy sports cars, and then big gawdy silver belt buckles that say "MANSTER". And a leather jacket with a giant eagle embroidered on the back. Perhaps some 'gator' boots!
Oh robo...say it ain't so. Say it ain't so.
robo::
""""I don't think I'll be taking an entire evening to dine with Handel, as I'd much rather spend those evenings with my lovely wife,..."""
OK EVERYONE! THAT'S OUR CUE! ALL TOGETHER NOW!
""AAAAAAAAAAAWWWWWWWWW!""
Seriously, that's very sweet. And I can fully understand that! Trust me. There are more pleasant ways for me to spend an evening as well. Like clenching my fist, carefully placing razor blades between each of my clenched fingers, and trying to swallow my entire hand. Blades and all.
But It is my way to reaching out to the intellectually challenged. I'm looking to help you out. I got to thinkin' about your musical theories. You know? Where you listen to the 'spin doctors' and think your a surgeon? Or listen to Miles Davis and then believe your a trumpet player? Yeah, that!
Well...I'm a'thinkin that maybe...JUST MAYBE mind you...Maybe if you hang out with me for like 10 minutes, that a little bit of me might rub off on ya! And you will hopefully be able to think clearly. Just a little bit. Well...that's my hope. A dream? Maybe. I just want the best for ya robo.
10 minutes might be too short, but we'll do what we can. (just don't go all 'ruddy Eskimo' on me).
robo::
"""...but we just might run into each other. If we do, it'll be interesting!"""
Well of course! I'm a very interesting fellow. Which means, that YOU wont be the one that falls asleep at dinner.
Mark Kennedy:::
"""You are right about Handel's artistic criticisms: they were always interesting and I enjoyed them. I am sorry to see that it turned so bad.""
Mark! Don't be sorry pallie. Nothing 'turned bad'. Its all good. Its just what it is. Ya know? You are a kind and oh so gentle soul. And if it were possible, I would hold you up (as in roots) and say to the Heavens, "THIS!! THIS OH LORD!! IS A GOOD AND DECENT FELLOW! KIND, GENTLE, WITH GOOD BLOG!! AND SMELLS OF LILACS AND DAFFODILS!"
But that would require me having to shower and put on pants and maybe shave (my neck and half my back and surprisingly my left foot-don't ask). More work than I think would be worth the effort I'm afraid.
countsy:::
"""You know there's no way in hell I can stay away from Comicon next year now. I'm going with three margaritas in me!!! Kick ass recap man!""
(Note to self....checklist for con.
Clean pair of man panties?: CHECK!
Toothbrush?: CHECK!
Taser?: CHECK!
Hacksaw?: CHECK!
Garbage bags?: CHECK!
Clear rout to ocean marked out?:CHECK!
Visa card ready to buy round of drinks for bar patrons, to celebrate the cleaning of the city of unsightly mess. Aw, what the heck- TWO rounds and nachos.: CHECK!!
scrblls::
""Seriously you guys should hug or something!""
gareth:
"" Handel... what a guy! I hoping you guys hug and make up.""
WOW! There seems to be allot of GUYS wanting to see us get all huggy up on each other robo!Well...these ARE your pals. (Ahem)
I'm remembering that photo of countsy and robo..hugging.
One guy looked all too willing to get cuddly and cozy, and the other looked as if he were made of wood! Very uncomfortable with the huggy's! Or so it seemed from the pic.
So what do ya say, robo? You wanna get all huggy baby's? I don't know, maybe. You ARE A SAN-FRAN MAN now.
COUGH COUGH COUGHruddyeskimoCOUGH COUGH COUGH!!
So that's that. Post coming soon..On animation.
Monday, October 08, 2007
new post in a day....
So look for it onnnnnnnn....hmmm. Tomorrow?
No.
Getting my hair done.
Tomorrow night?
No. Nails and my 'kini' wax.
WEDNESDAY.
It will be just some thoughts on animation. My next few will probably be on animation. SPECIFICALLY animation. Lest some hypersensitive whiny story guys think me picking on them all the time.
This time...There might be some animators cranky with me. Maybe.
As with the story goons, My intent is not to go out and piss people off. These are MY feelings and MY opinions. I am open to a debate. (blog to blog). But I must insist that you debate with clarity and intelligence. In short: NOT like countsy and robo debate.
Although robo at least tries to fake it better than countsy.
Tsk tsk tsk...Ohhhh robo. Robo, Robo....robo. Anyone ever see 'Invasion of the body snatchers'?
But I digress.
Look for it then, If ya care.
No.
Getting my hair done.
Tomorrow night?
No. Nails and my 'kini' wax.
WEDNESDAY.
It will be just some thoughts on animation. My next few will probably be on animation. SPECIFICALLY animation. Lest some hypersensitive whiny story guys think me picking on them all the time.
This time...There might be some animators cranky with me. Maybe.
As with the story goons, My intent is not to go out and piss people off. These are MY feelings and MY opinions. I am open to a debate. (blog to blog). But I must insist that you debate with clarity and intelligence. In short: NOT like countsy and robo debate.
Although robo at least tries to fake it better than countsy.
Tsk tsk tsk...Ohhhh robo. Robo, Robo....robo. Anyone ever see 'Invasion of the body snatchers'?
But I digress.
Look for it then, If ya care.
Sunday, October 07, 2007
HEY ROBO!!
GUESS WHAT MOVIE I'M WATCHIN NOW!!
You know, Robo..I may have a surprise for you..coming really soon.
Its gonna be a doozy. Your either going to be really happy about it, or really pissed off about it.
I cant wait to see! I'm almost peeing on myself with anticipation.
>:)
I dont know if its the wine or the movie or what?? But I want to put this invite to you. I AM trying my best to make it to the san diego comic con next year. Have you ever been there? Maybe yes, maybe no?
If you plan on making it there, lets maybe meet up.
Come alone.
I"m interested in meeting YOU. You've always been more interesting to me, than countsy.
Who knows..we might hit it off.
Ya think?
If your married...dont bother. I wont have my wife there...I'm interested in YOU. If your married or have a boy toy..(countsy?) leave it behind.
You and me. Lets grapple, big boy.
We'll either have drinks ..and get along, or kill eachother. Best man wins.
What do ya say "robo".
You game or are ya....'gay'?
Robo...this is a genuine invitation. Not just a blog throwdown. Make no mistake......You piss me off. You REALLY, REALLY PISS me off.
But you interest me.
You wanna go mano a mano?
You let me know.
If...AND granted....thats a big IF... IF schedules work out on both our ends....lets meet up.
For at least a dinner and drinks. Or maybe just drinks. There are lots of folks that hate me and lots of folks that love me. But I'm pickin YOU. YOU! DONT you feel honored??>:)
YOU and ME.
Not interested in your wife. Not interested in your pansy ass friends. Not interested in your new found pragmatic musical theories. Not interested in your stupid dogs or cats.
YOU....and......ME.
Word of advice?
Come with at least a drink in you.
I will. Otherwise I'm gonna swing on you. I will. NO joke. So I will have at least ONE margarita or wine in me before I meet you. It will put me in a better mood. Trust me.
IF I see countsy? I'll knock the shit out of him. And that's serious Robo. I WILL beat the shit out of him.
Because I'm SERIOUS about this. I expect you to have the brains....or 'PRAGMATISM' to know that I AM serious about this. You wanna meet? leave the boy toy at home. And the wife.
IF you're interested in this. Even REMOTELY! Tell me now. Because (in my case) it would need to be planned way in advance.
What do you say puss-ass? You interested? You interested in a meeting?
Mano a Mano? If so...then I'll pick a spot for us to meet up at. Night. Drinks or dinner. You let me know on your Lavern and chirppy blog and we'll go from there.
A wise man once said..:
"I'm used to whiskey.
Whiskey is a slap on the back.
Champagne is heavy mist before my eyes"
Comon Robo.....I'm comin to YOUR neighborhood (possibly--schedule permitting).
You up for it?
Dare ya.
Double Dare ya.
We either hug.
Or one of us wont come in the following Monday due to a broken arm.
Sounds fun dun' it?
You let me know sunshine.
PS: The chair is not my child. The CHAIR....... is NOT.... my child.
HaNdEl
You know, Robo..I may have a surprise for you..coming really soon.
Its gonna be a doozy. Your either going to be really happy about it, or really pissed off about it.
I cant wait to see! I'm almost peeing on myself with anticipation.
>:)
I dont know if its the wine or the movie or what?? But I want to put this invite to you. I AM trying my best to make it to the san diego comic con next year. Have you ever been there? Maybe yes, maybe no?
If you plan on making it there, lets maybe meet up.
Come alone.
I"m interested in meeting YOU. You've always been more interesting to me, than countsy.
Who knows..we might hit it off.
Ya think?
If your married...dont bother. I wont have my wife there...I'm interested in YOU. If your married or have a boy toy..(countsy?) leave it behind.
You and me. Lets grapple, big boy.
We'll either have drinks ..and get along, or kill eachother. Best man wins.
What do ya say "robo".
You game or are ya....'gay'?
Robo...this is a genuine invitation. Not just a blog throwdown. Make no mistake......You piss me off. You REALLY, REALLY PISS me off.
But you interest me.
You wanna go mano a mano?
You let me know.
If...AND granted....thats a big IF... IF schedules work out on both our ends....lets meet up.
For at least a dinner and drinks. Or maybe just drinks. There are lots of folks that hate me and lots of folks that love me. But I'm pickin YOU. YOU! DONT you feel honored??>:)
YOU and ME.
Not interested in your wife. Not interested in your pansy ass friends. Not interested in your new found pragmatic musical theories. Not interested in your stupid dogs or cats.
YOU....and......ME.
Word of advice?
Come with at least a drink in you.
I will. Otherwise I'm gonna swing on you. I will. NO joke. So I will have at least ONE margarita or wine in me before I meet you. It will put me in a better mood. Trust me.
IF I see countsy? I'll knock the shit out of him. And that's serious Robo. I WILL beat the shit out of him.
Because I'm SERIOUS about this. I expect you to have the brains....or 'PRAGMATISM' to know that I AM serious about this. You wanna meet? leave the boy toy at home. And the wife.
IF you're interested in this. Even REMOTELY! Tell me now. Because (in my case) it would need to be planned way in advance.
What do you say puss-ass? You interested? You interested in a meeting?
Mano a Mano? If so...then I'll pick a spot for us to meet up at. Night. Drinks or dinner. You let me know on your Lavern and chirppy blog and we'll go from there.
A wise man once said..:
"I'm used to whiskey.
Whiskey is a slap on the back.
Champagne is heavy mist before my eyes"
Comon Robo.....I'm comin to YOUR neighborhood (possibly--schedule permitting).
You up for it?
Dare ya.
Double Dare ya.
We either hug.
Or one of us wont come in the following Monday due to a broken arm.
Sounds fun dun' it?
You let me know sunshine.
PS: The chair is not my child. The CHAIR....... is NOT.... my child.
HaNdEl
Wednesday, October 03, 2007
Ok, sorry for the delay.
The long awaited countsy response.
I see that you have taken down your blog countsy, so I'll respond as best I can from my memory of your last post.
you had a freeze screen up of a member to the 'comic space' group, that you associate to be me, and your caption is something to the effect of: " surprising, this from a guy who doesn't need the praise".
Lets look at some aspects of the member that you posted.
he/she is a member of the "comicspace forum"
As I said A LOOOOOOOOOONG time ago, I am involved in several art/animation/comics forums.
And I too am a member of the 'comic space forum.
When I look at this members gallery, I find it interesting that this person has four pieces in the 'gallery'. As opposed to most everyone else who has OOODLES AND OOOODLES of pieces up in their respective galleries. I also find it interesting that he/she has apparently entered those four pieces within a couple days--way back in what...may?
Now the work is fairly competent, doesn't he have any thing else to show? Or maybe he doesn't want to have a whole lot up. Why do you think that is the case oh king of stupid?
Lets move on to another point. Lets just say that it WAS me. Cute, cuddly, pizza nippled me.
IF you can remember a little while back, I remember telling robo, that I had spoken to some friends that are comic book artists(funnily enough through 'comicspace'). Telling them that I thought you guys were butt sniffers.
They (for the most part) pretty much agreed, being that you all were pretty much doing this for nothing more than being stroked by your friends. But they ALL told me that I was essentially going a bit far with my thoughts on 'art blogs'. That they, being artists in the comics, use their respective blogs as extensions of their portfolio's. And that it opens tons of doors for commission work, and that they have received numerous job offers THROUGH and because of them. They were serving a purpose OTHER than stoking their egos (which they said they didn't mind that either!:).
So I thought about this countsy. I thought about it long and hard. I kept telling robo that I might have an 'apology' for him. I finally DID tell him (robo) that after talking to my buddies, that I think I may have been a bit hard on him (and for that matter-you) on the blog issue. Now while I still think you two are kind of butt sniffers, I DO think that the blog thing can be useful in other ways other than making your friends giggle like school girls.
And I've even come around to the idea of putting up some work on a blog (at some point). So IF I were to open up a gallery on comic space, it might be very similar to the member that you screen saved. very sparse until I feel good about it. More comfortable with it.
But that's a fact jack. Nothing inconsistent at all. Just go back on my blog and look for what I told robo. Or (if his 'pragmatic' mind hasn't lapsed) ask him about it. Whether or not I said, JUST THAT.
The other thing if I remember correctly, is a screen grab of a 'references' list?
Listing robo, right?
Boy that IS something. Sooooooooooo, lets see. IF this guy IS me....THAT'S nerve huh??
My goodness gracious!! That would make me the ballsiest dude ON THE FACE
OF, OF
THE, THE
EARTH! EARTH,EARTH!!!!
We're talkin van wilder's bulldog cahones!! whoooooooooooooooooooooooo!!
BAD MAMMMA JAMMMUH!!
Man, I seriously HOPE its me, because that's pretty balls nasty. If its NOT me, lets just say it IS, because that's so friggin impressive.Whew!!
Look countcrusty. I'm guessing by your 'this is priceless' comment, that IF this WAS me, you cant understand it. But now that I think about it, If I knew someone in the industry who I just don't get along with or didn't see I to eye with, and yet they were competent and good at what they did. I would TELL them to go ahead and list me as a reference and I would list THEM as such.
Even YOU..if someone came up to me and said, hey what do you think of countsy, I would (if I knew of your work ethic and dependability. I'll go on a limb and say its good.) ..I'd tell them that I think he's very capable.
IF you are...YOU ARE! Regardless of whether or not your a dick weed. (which you are).
IF you can draw dancing bears and singing monkeys...Your good for what the job needs.
I am PRETTY.
I am not petty.
As for me, I am comfortable with my skill sets. I am confident in what I can do. And in my work. If that is me, And someone comes to robo inquiring about me (which would never happen, believe me. You know as well as I do it is the work that matters and after looking at a portfolio, no one asks anyone anything.)
But what would robo say? That I cant draw? That I don't know what I'm doing? That I'm inexperienced?
No. Robo isn't a dummy (on some things yes-but not this). And he doesn't want to look like a dummy.
Now, how about a critique of the comic space members work that you screen grabbed.
1)cowchick: values, good. could pop the darks a bit more. No I take it back. Really needs more contrast. Don't be a chicken chitters with the values. I almost wonder if its just scanned badly.
2)BATMAN: I like this allot. Good values. Good contrast. Which is why I think that the cowchik might have scanned lighter. hmmm.
The gun is a little small too. Is it a gun? Does batman use guns? hmm. Anyway..I like it.
3)Storm tank spider thing: I hate this one. Its done well enough, but this type of stuff is so overly done. I just think its boring. This is probably done for games. The problem the games industry has is the same as the animation industry. They just want to do the same old thing over and over and over again. So I have sympathy for him on this one. Its fine tho. Just typical.
4)ZOMBIE COWBOY: I like zombies. So I like it. Face could use a little more polish though. But over all. Fine
5)SPACEMAN WITH GUN: I don't like it. muddled in the middle with the blast hitting the rock. Don't like the ink work. No where near as good as the graphite value work. Just my opinion.
Whoops. There's eight instead of four...
6)PAN GUY: I like this one. I wish it wasn't scanned blurry. I like his weight. I like the expression. I like his garb. OK, I like goat people. Countsy, IF you were half goat instead of half assed, I would dig you a whole lot more.
7)punker dude: Eh. Its OK. Something rubs me the wrong way on it. Not the drawing..maybe the painting of it. Maybe the color..I don't know. Just 'Eh'.
8)Vampire guy: I'd rework the face. Its too typical. Maybe that's whats wanted I guess. It's too typical though. Also the chest area needs work. Also the left hand is slipping for me. Re-work, Re-work.
Just my two bits. Overall, not too shabby.
Lets see....what else is there? Is that it? I think so, yeah.
I think that's that. I also think that I will take a little rest from you, countsy. Just for a little while. I really want to get some animation and comic posts up.
I'll beat on you again soon. Pat the robo on the noggin for me.
Tell him that I had gas today. And I pootied all the drive home. It was not good.
PS: And countsy, tell pelosi and moveon that I thank them for the continued funding for the war.I almost wish you guys had taken over congress earlier. I think we would have been able to get more of our agenda done. THANKS MUCH, fish taco!
Next post will be on: ANIMATION.
Just my two cents on it.
I see that you have taken down your blog countsy, so I'll respond as best I can from my memory of your last post.
you had a freeze screen up of a member to the 'comic space' group, that you associate to be me, and your caption is something to the effect of: " surprising, this from a guy who doesn't need the praise".
Lets look at some aspects of the member that you posted.
he/she is a member of the "comicspace forum"
As I said A LOOOOOOOOOONG time ago, I am involved in several art/animation/comics forums.
And I too am a member of the 'comic space forum.
When I look at this members gallery, I find it interesting that this person has four pieces in the 'gallery'. As opposed to most everyone else who has OOODLES AND OOOODLES of pieces up in their respective galleries. I also find it interesting that he/she has apparently entered those four pieces within a couple days--way back in what...may?
Now the work is fairly competent, doesn't he have any thing else to show? Or maybe he doesn't want to have a whole lot up. Why do you think that is the case oh king of stupid?
Lets move on to another point. Lets just say that it WAS me. Cute, cuddly, pizza nippled me.
IF you can remember a little while back, I remember telling robo, that I had spoken to some friends that are comic book artists(funnily enough through 'comicspace'). Telling them that I thought you guys were butt sniffers.
They (for the most part) pretty much agreed, being that you all were pretty much doing this for nothing more than being stroked by your friends. But they ALL told me that I was essentially going a bit far with my thoughts on 'art blogs'. That they, being artists in the comics, use their respective blogs as extensions of their portfolio's. And that it opens tons of doors for commission work, and that they have received numerous job offers THROUGH and because of them. They were serving a purpose OTHER than stoking their egos (which they said they didn't mind that either!:).
So I thought about this countsy. I thought about it long and hard. I kept telling robo that I might have an 'apology' for him. I finally DID tell him (robo) that after talking to my buddies, that I think I may have been a bit hard on him (and for that matter-you) on the blog issue. Now while I still think you two are kind of butt sniffers, I DO think that the blog thing can be useful in other ways other than making your friends giggle like school girls.
And I've even come around to the idea of putting up some work on a blog (at some point). So IF I were to open up a gallery on comic space, it might be very similar to the member that you screen saved. very sparse until I feel good about it. More comfortable with it.
But that's a fact jack. Nothing inconsistent at all. Just go back on my blog and look for what I told robo. Or (if his 'pragmatic' mind hasn't lapsed) ask him about it. Whether or not I said, JUST THAT.
The other thing if I remember correctly, is a screen grab of a 'references' list?
Listing robo, right?
Boy that IS something. Sooooooooooo, lets see. IF this guy IS me....THAT'S nerve huh??
My goodness gracious!! That would make me the ballsiest dude ON THE FACE
OF, OF
THE, THE
EARTH! EARTH,EARTH!!!!
We're talkin van wilder's bulldog cahones!! whoooooooooooooooooooooooo!!
BAD MAMMMA JAMMMUH!!
Man, I seriously HOPE its me, because that's pretty balls nasty. If its NOT me, lets just say it IS, because that's so friggin impressive.Whew!!
Look countcrusty. I'm guessing by your 'this is priceless' comment, that IF this WAS me, you cant understand it. But now that I think about it, If I knew someone in the industry who I just don't get along with or didn't see I to eye with, and yet they were competent and good at what they did. I would TELL them to go ahead and list me as a reference and I would list THEM as such.
Even YOU..if someone came up to me and said, hey what do you think of countsy, I would (if I knew of your work ethic and dependability. I'll go on a limb and say its good.) ..I'd tell them that I think he's very capable.
IF you are...YOU ARE! Regardless of whether or not your a dick weed. (which you are).
IF you can draw dancing bears and singing monkeys...Your good for what the job needs.
I am PRETTY.
I am not petty.
As for me, I am comfortable with my skill sets. I am confident in what I can do. And in my work. If that is me, And someone comes to robo inquiring about me (which would never happen, believe me. You know as well as I do it is the work that matters and after looking at a portfolio, no one asks anyone anything.)
But what would robo say? That I cant draw? That I don't know what I'm doing? That I'm inexperienced?
No. Robo isn't a dummy (on some things yes-but not this). And he doesn't want to look like a dummy.
Now, how about a critique of the comic space members work that you screen grabbed.
1)cowchick: values, good. could pop the darks a bit more. No I take it back. Really needs more contrast. Don't be a chicken chitters with the values. I almost wonder if its just scanned badly.
2)BATMAN: I like this allot. Good values. Good contrast. Which is why I think that the cowchik might have scanned lighter. hmmm.
The gun is a little small too. Is it a gun? Does batman use guns? hmm. Anyway..I like it.
3)Storm tank spider thing: I hate this one. Its done well enough, but this type of stuff is so overly done. I just think its boring. This is probably done for games. The problem the games industry has is the same as the animation industry. They just want to do the same old thing over and over and over again. So I have sympathy for him on this one. Its fine tho. Just typical.
4)ZOMBIE COWBOY: I like zombies. So I like it. Face could use a little more polish though. But over all. Fine
5)SPACEMAN WITH GUN: I don't like it. muddled in the middle with the blast hitting the rock. Don't like the ink work. No where near as good as the graphite value work. Just my opinion.
Whoops. There's eight instead of four...
6)PAN GUY: I like this one. I wish it wasn't scanned blurry. I like his weight. I like the expression. I like his garb. OK, I like goat people. Countsy, IF you were half goat instead of half assed, I would dig you a whole lot more.
7)punker dude: Eh. Its OK. Something rubs me the wrong way on it. Not the drawing..maybe the painting of it. Maybe the color..I don't know. Just 'Eh'.
8)Vampire guy: I'd rework the face. Its too typical. Maybe that's whats wanted I guess. It's too typical though. Also the chest area needs work. Also the left hand is slipping for me. Re-work, Re-work.
Just my two bits. Overall, not too shabby.
Lets see....what else is there? Is that it? I think so, yeah.
I think that's that. I also think that I will take a little rest from you, countsy. Just for a little while. I really want to get some animation and comic posts up.
I'll beat on you again soon. Pat the robo on the noggin for me.
Tell him that I had gas today. And I pootied all the drive home. It was not good.
PS: And countsy, tell pelosi and moveon that I thank them for the continued funding for the war.I almost wish you guys had taken over congress earlier. I think we would have been able to get more of our agenda done. THANKS MUCH, fish taco!
Next post will be on: ANIMATION.
Just my two cents on it.
Monday, October 01, 2007
HEY ROBO!!
This was the last rehersal before the debut concert in charlotte NC, which by all press accounts said it WAS FRIGGIN AWESOME!!
COMON ROBO! I know your into all that listening to jazz and becoming a zen PHD or whatever but gotta git back to the roots boy!
SO GET SOME CLEAN UNDIES ON AND LETS GIT TO THE SHOW!!!
(you drive)
VH BABY!!!! WHOOOOOOOOOOO HOOOOOOOOOOO!
A POST REPLY -FINALLY!!!
OK countsy. Lets git to the dance.
First:
countsy:::
"".. I would debate you of there was anything valid to debate.......well, don't bother checking back in here. I'm done... I'm sure you'll crow about how you've chased me away, beat me down with your insane logic. Go ahead.""
That's the jist of it.
Countsy, I don't blame you for leaving in a huff. I do understand. You are out of your league. But please don't make excuses for it. "IF there was anything to debate". I've given you point after point after point. I've engaged you with the simplest question of whether that 'moveon'org' ad was over the top. You couldn't even admit that!
Why? because to do so would mean that you would have to cede that point OR side with the ad and come off like a crackpot, just like your fellow 'move on' idiots.
So when you cant even engage in the simplest argument, or at least defend your argument's...It really is not a shocker that you will stomp your widdo footsie, pick up your ball, swing your widdo pigtails in the air and huff away. I'm just surprised it didn't take longer. So I'll give you kudos on that at least.
Hey here's some parting questions for you to chew on. What do ya have to say for the violence being down by 50% in Iraq? What do you have to say about the stock market hitting record territory today? What do you have to say about unemployment being DOWN to record levels?
Helloo? No?
Nothing. Because to do so would mean to acknowledge GOOD news, and for a leftist- to do so would not be a good thing. Because in order for democrats to do well, they need America to do badly.
That's rather pathetic. But then...look who I'm talking to.
BUT your "DONE"! "Enough is enough!"
Translation:
'RUN AWAAAAAAAAYYY! RUN AWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYY!!'
(Ha ha! And for the record, Robo is the one bangin' the coconuts while following behind you.)
PS: The next post is the fun one! So check back tomorrow, lubricant.
First:
countsy:::
"".. I would debate you of there was anything valid to debate.......well, don't bother checking back in here. I'm done... I'm sure you'll crow about how you've chased me away, beat me down with your insane logic. Go ahead.""
That's the jist of it.
Countsy, I don't blame you for leaving in a huff. I do understand. You are out of your league. But please don't make excuses for it. "IF there was anything to debate". I've given you point after point after point. I've engaged you with the simplest question of whether that 'moveon'org' ad was over the top. You couldn't even admit that!
Why? because to do so would mean that you would have to cede that point OR side with the ad and come off like a crackpot, just like your fellow 'move on' idiots.
So when you cant even engage in the simplest argument, or at least defend your argument's...It really is not a shocker that you will stomp your widdo footsie, pick up your ball, swing your widdo pigtails in the air and huff away. I'm just surprised it didn't take longer. So I'll give you kudos on that at least.
Hey here's some parting questions for you to chew on. What do ya have to say for the violence being down by 50% in Iraq? What do you have to say about the stock market hitting record territory today? What do you have to say about unemployment being DOWN to record levels?
Helloo? No?
Nothing. Because to do so would mean to acknowledge GOOD news, and for a leftist- to do so would not be a good thing. Because in order for democrats to do well, they need America to do badly.
That's rather pathetic. But then...look who I'm talking to.
BUT your "DONE"! "Enough is enough!"
Translation:
'RUN AWAAAAAAAAYYY! RUN AWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYY!!'
(Ha ha! And for the record, Robo is the one bangin' the coconuts while following behind you.)
PS: The next post is the fun one! So check back tomorrow, lubricant.
Monday, September 24, 2007
I KNOW...
I'm still needing a post. I will try and put one up tomorrow. Deadlines and my side gig at pimpin' just gots me all outta wiggetty wack.
I was going to do a post on animation, but countsy has an interesting post that's filled with yummy gooey filling. But ya know,,,,I did promise one on animation so I'm going to stick to that and get back to my little gay friend over the weekend. (no robo...the other gay friend).
So check it, if ya like...or don't. Isssss allll gooooood.
EDIT:: NAWWW. I just cant. Countsy..I'll give you a reply first. Just cuz I think your cute. And since your throwin in the towel. And no..I don't think that its due to not having the intellectual makeup to defend your own asinine beliefs. (well not totally anyway). I do believe you when you say its because work is picking up.
So comb your hair and brush your tooth, and look for it over the weekend.
Till then........
I was going to do a post on animation, but countsy has an interesting post that's filled with yummy gooey filling. But ya know,,,,I did promise one on animation so I'm going to stick to that and get back to my little gay friend over the weekend. (no robo...the other gay friend).
So check it, if ya like...or don't. Isssss allll gooooood.
EDIT:: NAWWW. I just cant. Countsy..I'll give you a reply first. Just cuz I think your cute. And since your throwin in the towel. And no..I don't think that its due to not having the intellectual makeup to defend your own asinine beliefs. (well not totally anyway). I do believe you when you say its because work is picking up.
So comb your hair and brush your tooth, and look for it over the weekend.
Till then........
COUNTSY..
You make me smile. I'll be with you soon. I'm too busy watching your pal and moveon.org partner, Amadinejad on tv.
talk to ya soon.......
talk to ya soon.......
Wednesday, September 19, 2007
OH MY DEAR, SWEET, SIMPLE, STUPID COUNTSY...
Your response to my Osama argument was rather weak countsy. It basically didn't answer any of my points YET AGAIN. You have now had TWO chances...and you opted NOT to. But how could you? You don't argue your side, because really you cant.
countsy::
"""Just because because you say you served someone doesn't mean you did. It means you think you did. Again, distinguishing facts from opinion. Clearly you can't."""
Let me break it down for you, sanjay:
FACT:
1) Did Osama release a video? Yes.
2) In the statement, Did he express alot of leftist junk, from love of Noam Chomsky to global warming? Yes.
3)Did it sound like the dems were the party of HIS choice? Yes.
4)Did he express frustration that they have been unable to do what it is that HE wants them to do? Yes.
5)Was the speech fashioned by Adam Gudahn? Yes.
6) Is Adam Gudahn a leftist nut? Yes.
7) Did the speech expouse the same goofy stance as say, 'The Daily Kos' or 'Moveon.Org'? YES.
8) Are those two organizations leftist? YES.
Sorry lil skipperdoodle, those ARE facts, not opinion.
That's why I say that I served you your assy. And the fact that you don't and cant argue it - Only to try to feebly shrug it off and say the equivalent of "Uhh oh yeah?? Well YOUR UGLY!WAHHHH WAAAAAAAAHHH!"
Is pretty pathetic really. But that's my countsy in a nutshell (and I mean that quite literally).
countsy:::
"""You hate your fellow Americans. You know who else hates Americans? Osama Bin Laden.""
Oh countsy, I don't hate you. I don't hate nancy pelosi. I dont hate harry 'the lassy' reid.
I do confess that I don't like any of you all that much though. But that said, even though I don't like you, I don't want you to damage the country by surrendering it to evil people. you see my dim wit pal, that would be bad. Really Really bad. Because after they kill off the people that really DO love this country, their gonna have to deal with the submissives. The ones that are all to ready to conform- so that they can live. But they wont want to keep all of you. So they'll probably gut you as well. And I don't want that for ya, countsy.
For you or any of the others that don't really believe in what this country is all about. For you out there that are just benefiting off of America. The ones that are just...here.
Taking up space.
I would like you all to be able to keep all of your brainless lil noggins right on your shoulders- so that you can live another day... with the hope of someday raising that white flag.
Countsy:
""""So let me make it clear as a leftist and a patriot.
Fuck Adam Gudahn.
Fuck Che Guevera.
Fuck Stalin.
Fuck Osama Bin Laden.
Fuck You Steve."""
'Leftist Patriot'....Oxymoron?
Look, big time KUDO'S to you for distancing yourself from these individuals. I just find it sad that you and leftists LIKE you- wont divorce yourselves from their (Osama, Stalin,Che Guevera, adam gudahn) beliefs and mindsets.
Sad indeed.
countsy:
""Easy, don't come in your own mouth Steve. I'm not upset...."""
Well, thanky for giving me( I assume its me) the benefit of the doubt on BOTH my girth and my aim. It really is quite descent of you. Again, thanky!
countsy::
""Also, fuck Alberto Gonzalez.
Fuck George Bush.
Fuck ANY Congressman, Democrat or Republican, who would sign on to destroy our freedoms in the name of security. Because to destroy one is to destroy both.""
Your such an intellectual heavyweight countsy. You really, REALLY are. What freedoms have you lost in the name of security? Name them. Tell me JUST ONE that you've lost. One that you were able to do pre 9-11, that you cant do POST 9-11. How many times have you been arrested or thrown into Guantanamo.
Dolt.
I'll await your answer on that one. As I'm STILL awaiting your answer to whether or not the Moveon attack on General Petraeus was over the line.
You would think that THAT would at least be an easy one for you to answer. I know your a big fan of 'moveon.org'. (Hey so is Osama!)
Just be 'honest'. Let me know if you need a definition on that Mr. panties.
counsty::
"""You're a fucking sheep Steve, who will bleat gladly to the slaughter of his own liberty because the music from the "kill 'em all" right is so pretty to you, you're hypnotized into celebrating the destruction of The Constitution and the principals on which this country was founded.""
Moveon.org AND npr crap. regurgitated by those who don't know how to think for themselves. Which you'll take in, wait till you have lunch with robo, where he will violently throw his head back so you can THROW up in HIS mouth, all the worthless, meaningless, thoughtless caca that has been fed to YOU.
You've lost no liberty. It is the fight for liberty and to preserve Liberty that you and other leftist are so eager to attack. To throw in the towel and settle for appeasement to those who wont be appeased until they've conquered and killed both you and your family.
You and other leftists are just spoiled, pampered, selfish, elititst, nancy's.. that have no idea of what the constitution even stands for much less Liberty or 'principals'.
Don't try and act smart countsy. I have no respect for that. And even LESS for truly smart people that opt, for sake of pragmatism-to 'fit in' with the crowd, in an effort to be included.
That said...."kill em all" IS indeed a good album. Gotta go back to the roots baby!
countsy::
"""Surrender to the enemies of America? Never. Not to those foreign or domestic."""
Now, Now countsy. You and other thin skinned poo-sasies, in the face of any evil, are all to willing to raise the white flag of surrender, stick your heads in the sand, raise your pampered spoiled assy's high in the air, and murmer...."be gentle".
Because as we all know, leftist due to a broken moral compass, have never...NEVER met an evil that they are not willing to either run away from or coddle up to.
Its your way. Its what you are. Its WHO you are.
Its your core.
And basically, to those in this country who DO love their country and know what needs to be done to carry on, in order to protect the liberty and freedoms that are loved and cherished,...
You?
You're dead weight.
countsy::
"""Just because because you say you served someone doesn't mean you did. It means you think you did. Again, distinguishing facts from opinion. Clearly you can't."""
Let me break it down for you, sanjay:
FACT:
1) Did Osama release a video? Yes.
2) In the statement, Did he express alot of leftist junk, from love of Noam Chomsky to global warming? Yes.
3)Did it sound like the dems were the party of HIS choice? Yes.
4)Did he express frustration that they have been unable to do what it is that HE wants them to do? Yes.
5)Was the speech fashioned by Adam Gudahn? Yes.
6) Is Adam Gudahn a leftist nut? Yes.
7) Did the speech expouse the same goofy stance as say, 'The Daily Kos' or 'Moveon.Org'? YES.
8) Are those two organizations leftist? YES.
Sorry lil skipperdoodle, those ARE facts, not opinion.
That's why I say that I served you your assy. And the fact that you don't and cant argue it - Only to try to feebly shrug it off and say the equivalent of "Uhh oh yeah?? Well YOUR UGLY!WAHHHH WAAAAAAAAHHH!"
Is pretty pathetic really. But that's my countsy in a nutshell (and I mean that quite literally).
countsy:::
"""You hate your fellow Americans. You know who else hates Americans? Osama Bin Laden.""
Oh countsy, I don't hate you. I don't hate nancy pelosi. I dont hate harry 'the lassy' reid.
I do confess that I don't like any of you all that much though. But that said, even though I don't like you, I don't want you to damage the country by surrendering it to evil people. you see my dim wit pal, that would be bad. Really Really bad. Because after they kill off the people that really DO love this country, their gonna have to deal with the submissives. The ones that are all to ready to conform- so that they can live. But they wont want to keep all of you. So they'll probably gut you as well. And I don't want that for ya, countsy.
For you or any of the others that don't really believe in what this country is all about. For you out there that are just benefiting off of America. The ones that are just...here.
Taking up space.
I would like you all to be able to keep all of your brainless lil noggins right on your shoulders- so that you can live another day... with the hope of someday raising that white flag.
Countsy:
""""So let me make it clear as a leftist and a patriot.
Fuck Adam Gudahn.
Fuck Che Guevera.
Fuck Stalin.
Fuck Osama Bin Laden.
Fuck You Steve."""
'Leftist Patriot'....Oxymoron?
Look, big time KUDO'S to you for distancing yourself from these individuals. I just find it sad that you and leftists LIKE you- wont divorce yourselves from their (Osama, Stalin,Che Guevera, adam gudahn) beliefs and mindsets.
Sad indeed.
countsy:
""Easy, don't come in your own mouth Steve. I'm not upset...."""
Well, thanky for giving me( I assume its me) the benefit of the doubt on BOTH my girth and my aim. It really is quite descent of you. Again, thanky!
countsy::
""Also, fuck Alberto Gonzalez.
Fuck George Bush.
Fuck ANY Congressman, Democrat or Republican, who would sign on to destroy our freedoms in the name of security. Because to destroy one is to destroy both.""
Your such an intellectual heavyweight countsy. You really, REALLY are. What freedoms have you lost in the name of security? Name them. Tell me JUST ONE that you've lost. One that you were able to do pre 9-11, that you cant do POST 9-11. How many times have you been arrested or thrown into Guantanamo.
Dolt.
I'll await your answer on that one. As I'm STILL awaiting your answer to whether or not the Moveon attack on General Petraeus was over the line.
You would think that THAT would at least be an easy one for you to answer. I know your a big fan of 'moveon.org'. (Hey so is Osama!)
Just be 'honest'. Let me know if you need a definition on that Mr. panties.
counsty::
"""You're a fucking sheep Steve, who will bleat gladly to the slaughter of his own liberty because the music from the "kill 'em all" right is so pretty to you, you're hypnotized into celebrating the destruction of The Constitution and the principals on which this country was founded.""
Moveon.org AND npr crap. regurgitated by those who don't know how to think for themselves. Which you'll take in, wait till you have lunch with robo, where he will violently throw his head back so you can THROW up in HIS mouth, all the worthless, meaningless, thoughtless caca that has been fed to YOU.
You've lost no liberty. It is the fight for liberty and to preserve Liberty that you and other leftist are so eager to attack. To throw in the towel and settle for appeasement to those who wont be appeased until they've conquered and killed both you and your family.
You and other leftists are just spoiled, pampered, selfish, elititst, nancy's.. that have no idea of what the constitution even stands for much less Liberty or 'principals'.
Don't try and act smart countsy. I have no respect for that. And even LESS for truly smart people that opt, for sake of pragmatism-to 'fit in' with the crowd, in an effort to be included.
That said...."kill em all" IS indeed a good album. Gotta go back to the roots baby!
countsy::
"""Surrender to the enemies of America? Never. Not to those foreign or domestic."""
Now, Now countsy. You and other thin skinned poo-sasies, in the face of any evil, are all to willing to raise the white flag of surrender, stick your heads in the sand, raise your pampered spoiled assy's high in the air, and murmer...."be gentle".
Because as we all know, leftist due to a broken moral compass, have never...NEVER met an evil that they are not willing to either run away from or coddle up to.
Its your way. Its what you are. Its WHO you are.
Its your core.
And basically, to those in this country who DO love their country and know what needs to be done to carry on, in order to protect the liberty and freedoms that are loved and cherished,...
You?
You're dead weight.
Thursday, September 13, 2007
HULK HANDS FOR A BUCK!!
So there I am, taking a walk with my family. Just a nice leisurely stroll on a Saturday morning.
Every now and then the neighborhood does a block party garage sale. Those are always alot of fun. People selling their old stuff for money to buy NEW stuff, so that in a few years it can be deemed 'old' stuff, that they can again sit outside on a Saturday morning to sell to people that want to buy old stuff that will be considered 'new' stuff that they can add to the mass of 'stuff' that they have collected in their household of 'stuff'.
In a nutshell.
ANYWAY!
There we are strolling and looking. And most of the time, there really isn't anything to git. Nothing that meets your guidelines of acceptable 'stuff'. We were turning the corner, and just about to our house. I was playing 'zoooom' with my kid, when all of a sudden.....a pop of GREEN flashes through the corner of my eye. I turn back and look...
HULK HANDS!!!!
I compose myself as I walk up the driveway. I was figuring:
1) That they will be priced around 7 bucks -At least! Considering that they sell for about 15 bucks in the stores.
2) That they would be really messed up with poop stains on them or something.
Well, Not only were they BOTH present and in good condition, they still worked (with crashing sounds and 'grrrs')!
When I turned them to see the sticker expecting a 8-10$ price, what did I see??
1$.
ONE BUCK!?!?
I turned to my wife and said in a controlled voice and demeanor, "one buck?"
She could tell by my smile that I wanted em'. So she said in a very supporting tone, obviously sympathetic to my lifetime dork qualities, of which I assume is one of the appealing things she sees in the goof that is 'me'. She sweetly said:
"You should get them!"
I thought to myself: "who knows? I may have to use these to fend off danger! To protect not only myself from oncoming threats but also MY FAMILY!!
It would almost be...almost be IRRESPONSIBLE of me if I DIDN'T buy these massive foam green mits with crashing, 'grr'ing sounds!"
I glanced down at my puzzled looking daughter and said...
"You know...I think I will. I think I will."
Although I make it a point to never carry mass wads of cash on me when strolling the neighborhood, so I didn't have the......dollar on me.
(ahem)
So I told the nice lady (who obviously didn't know the treasure that she was about to lose) to hold onto the Hulk Hands, that I would be right back.
We got home and I grabbed the.......dollar and walked (briskly) back to the house to take hold of my prize.
The lady was talking to another lady when I walked up her driveway.
"I'm back for the Hulk Hands." I said.
"Oh yes, here you go."
The lady that was talking to her when I walked up, turned to me and said,
"Boy, the kids walking around with their parents are sure making off well today!"
I said;
"Yeah, but whats sad is that these are for ME!"
They got a good laugh (as did I). I thought to myself (As I walked down the street making CRASHING and GRRR sounds)..
"what the heck do I care?....
"HULK HANDS FOR A BUCK!!"
Wednesday, September 12, 2007
Moral compass. Or LACK OF.
Well about three days ago, I had a post about Osama bin Laden. I posted how he, in his video message to the U.S.- how he has many of the same interests and talking points as MOVE ON.ORG!
Everything from global warming to his glowing references to noam chumpsky.
He even expresses his frustrations at the dems for not being able to end the war. Seemingly the dems seem to be his party of choice. No big surprise to me, being that he SPEWS the same kind of crap that comes out of the 'daily kos' and 'move on.org'.
HE SOUNDS LIKE A LEFTIST.
Now that said, When it came down to countsy writing up a reply, he simply says:(in its entirety)
countsy::
"""This one's too laughable to even deal with. Steve, your little rants are going so far off the rails now, you're becoming a parody of a joke. If Crazy 'Lil Stevie still has some friends out there, throw this poor bastard a life line soon.""
That's it. Notice how there is not one word about the substance of my post. Now he'll say "Well!! That's because there IS none. Nonsense. If I say he (osama) sounds like a leftist and shares the same view points..AND then I give examples of that...THAT'S substance baby!
What is REALLY telling, Is that they are now saying that there is great reason to think that much of Osama's speach was fashioned by the American turned militant islamist; adam gudahn who ABSOLUTLY IS a leftist. Straight out of.......California.
But No...Countsy doesn't answer my points because he cant. He would have to admit that, YEAH...Osama DOES sound like a leftist. YEAH..Osama DOES have the same interests.
And YEAH...that I'm right.
Comon countsy. Fess up. I got'cha. Would you like me to link the transcript for you? Just so you can be sure that your voting for someone that has all of your values. You don't wanna cast your vote for someone that has even a smidge of a different mindset than yourself. I mean, He's a fan of chomsky!! YOU GOTTA LOOOOOVE THAT!
I know that I do! :)
The second thing that I want to bring up is my post on the 11Th. My tribute to 9-11.
Countsy had a reply to it.
basically stating that the country is in trouble because I (Handel) "attack fellow Americans"
countsy::
"""I would rather attack Osama Bin Laden.
.... I know who our enemies are. They're not my fellow countrymen. Not even the ones I don't like."""
Countsy is a small thinker. And believe me, that's me being generous. What is worse than evil people who do evil things?
Answer: People who let them. People who look the other way. People who try and appease the evil and evil people.
The modern day democrat is a leftist by and large. A FAR leftist. Who do not care about this country. Who in great measure, don't even believe that there IS such thing as "EVIL".
And until one does admit to themselves that 'EVIL' exists, those people will glom onto Ideologies such as Communism,Socialism, Marxism and Fascism.
You will hold people such as Stalin, Castro, Che Guevara, and Arafat up as freedom fighters and great visionaries.
You will be more likely to have a twisted moral compass where "relativism" is your norm. Therefore making it easy to make idiotic statements like "Bush is worse than Hitler".
The Boy Scouts and Christianity become your idea of bad while those bastards that send out clueless children with bombs strapped to their bodies- with hopes to blow up as many people as possible at a popular Israeli hangout....become your idea of people who you should sympathize with.
Yeah..I attack those that are leftist. Because they are setting us up for another attack. They in their disdain for this country (all while taking full advantage of the perks of living in it) are doing everything they can to weaken it.
Let me ask you countsy. You have every NUTTER website linked on your blog. One of those of course being, "moveon.org".
How do you feel about that dumb ass organization attacking General Patraeus the way they did?
Are you embarrassed by it? You should be. But you probably aren't. Because in true leftist fashion, You probably agree with 'moveon'. In your view (and moveons) you probably think of Petraeus as the enemy. More so than you think of the terrorists that he is fighting the good fight against.
Right, countsy?
(((CHIRP CHIRP CHIRP)))
Hellooooo?
I'd ask robo the same questions? But I have a feeling that he's wanting to steer clear of any and all of this. You really cant defend the indefensible. So my guess is that he's under the bed on this one.
How pragmatic.
And just for the record countsy. You don't remember the victims of 9-11, by choosing to surrender to the enemy. That isn't doing them justice.
That's saying that they're lives didn't mean shit. Or possibly you have the same view as your fellow leftist Ward Churchill, likening the victims of 9-11 to "little Eichmann's". "Non Innocents".
No sir. IF you choose to run from evil, then you do NOT remember the victims with honor.
And why ARE leftists so quick to run from evil? Because remember..they don't believe in evil.
BROKEN, TWISTED, MORAL COMPASS.
You've been served your ass, countsy. Would you like a spoon or a fork?
Bon appetite.
"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing."
Edmund Burke
Everything from global warming to his glowing references to noam chumpsky.
He even expresses his frustrations at the dems for not being able to end the war. Seemingly the dems seem to be his party of choice. No big surprise to me, being that he SPEWS the same kind of crap that comes out of the 'daily kos' and 'move on.org'.
HE SOUNDS LIKE A LEFTIST.
Now that said, When it came down to countsy writing up a reply, he simply says:(in its entirety)
countsy::
"""This one's too laughable to even deal with. Steve, your little rants are going so far off the rails now, you're becoming a parody of a joke. If Crazy 'Lil Stevie still has some friends out there, throw this poor bastard a life line soon.""
That's it. Notice how there is not one word about the substance of my post. Now he'll say "Well!! That's because there IS none. Nonsense. If I say he (osama) sounds like a leftist and shares the same view points..AND then I give examples of that...THAT'S substance baby!
What is REALLY telling, Is that they are now saying that there is great reason to think that much of Osama's speach was fashioned by the American turned militant islamist; adam gudahn who ABSOLUTLY IS a leftist. Straight out of.......California.
But No...Countsy doesn't answer my points because he cant. He would have to admit that, YEAH...Osama DOES sound like a leftist. YEAH..Osama DOES have the same interests.
And YEAH...that I'm right.
Comon countsy. Fess up. I got'cha. Would you like me to link the transcript for you? Just so you can be sure that your voting for someone that has all of your values. You don't wanna cast your vote for someone that has even a smidge of a different mindset than yourself. I mean, He's a fan of chomsky!! YOU GOTTA LOOOOOVE THAT!
I know that I do! :)
The second thing that I want to bring up is my post on the 11Th. My tribute to 9-11.
Countsy had a reply to it.
basically stating that the country is in trouble because I (Handel) "attack fellow Americans"
countsy::
"""I would rather attack Osama Bin Laden.
.... I know who our enemies are. They're not my fellow countrymen. Not even the ones I don't like."""
Countsy is a small thinker. And believe me, that's me being generous. What is worse than evil people who do evil things?
Answer: People who let them. People who look the other way. People who try and appease the evil and evil people.
The modern day democrat is a leftist by and large. A FAR leftist. Who do not care about this country. Who in great measure, don't even believe that there IS such thing as "EVIL".
And until one does admit to themselves that 'EVIL' exists, those people will glom onto Ideologies such as Communism,Socialism, Marxism and Fascism.
You will hold people such as Stalin, Castro, Che Guevara, and Arafat up as freedom fighters and great visionaries.
You will be more likely to have a twisted moral compass where "relativism" is your norm. Therefore making it easy to make idiotic statements like "Bush is worse than Hitler".
The Boy Scouts and Christianity become your idea of bad while those bastards that send out clueless children with bombs strapped to their bodies- with hopes to blow up as many people as possible at a popular Israeli hangout....become your idea of people who you should sympathize with.
Yeah..I attack those that are leftist. Because they are setting us up for another attack. They in their disdain for this country (all while taking full advantage of the perks of living in it) are doing everything they can to weaken it.
Let me ask you countsy. You have every NUTTER website linked on your blog. One of those of course being, "moveon.org".
How do you feel about that dumb ass organization attacking General Patraeus the way they did?
Are you embarrassed by it? You should be. But you probably aren't. Because in true leftist fashion, You probably agree with 'moveon'. In your view (and moveons) you probably think of Petraeus as the enemy. More so than you think of the terrorists that he is fighting the good fight against.
Right, countsy?
(((CHIRP CHIRP CHIRP)))
Hellooooo?
I'd ask robo the same questions? But I have a feeling that he's wanting to steer clear of any and all of this. You really cant defend the indefensible. So my guess is that he's under the bed on this one.
How pragmatic.
And just for the record countsy. You don't remember the victims of 9-11, by choosing to surrender to the enemy. That isn't doing them justice.
That's saying that they're lives didn't mean shit. Or possibly you have the same view as your fellow leftist Ward Churchill, likening the victims of 9-11 to "little Eichmann's". "Non Innocents".
No sir. IF you choose to run from evil, then you do NOT remember the victims with honor.
And why ARE leftists so quick to run from evil? Because remember..they don't believe in evil.
BROKEN, TWISTED, MORAL COMPASS.
You've been served your ass, countsy. Would you like a spoon or a fork?
Bon appetite.
"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing."
Edmund Burke
Tuesday, September 11, 2007
9-11 SIX YEARS LATER.....
While looking for a photo for this entry, I saw many pics. Many of them were beautiful tributes to the trade towers. Many having the image of the towers standing tall and proud. Many were pictures of the two lights that stood as a temporary monument, that shot two wonderful beams of light straight up into the air. And it was lovely.
Many of the tributes had captions along side the beautiful pictures that stated
"WE WILL NEVER FORGET."
As I thought about which tribute picture I would choose, I thought about those lovely pictures with that caption of:"we will never forget". I think that that is what we say to lull us into a sleep. To lull us into....forgetting.
The lovely picture tributes.
The lovely captions.
With that, we have indeed forgotten.
SO I chose a more appropriate picture. A picture that is not a fluffy tribute of two buildings pre 9-11 standing tall. Or of two radiant beams of light: post 9-11.
I chose an image of the day itself.
9-11
Specifically a news paper front page.
this should be the image that we have. This should be the image that has the caption "WE WILL NEVER FORGET" plastered across it.
It is more accurate. It is more appropriate. It is reality.
There are those that have said, We are not in a war. There is no such thing as a war against terrorism. There are those that want you to be lulled to sleep. There are those that want you to believe that WE are the bad ones. That THIS country is the enemy.
Sadly, those that would like you to believe that, are in fact themselves....americans.
(in name only)
Dennis Kuscinich is in Syria, (SYRIA!!)trashing his own country.
Jimmy Carter displays his hatred of jews and Israel and his sympathies of and for Terrorist states.
Nancy Pelosi also travels to Syria to cozy up to Hezbollah.
DICK durbin slanders the troops..
Countless examples.
In this day, Keep this in mind.
ONE party (democrats/leftists) wants you to be lulled to sleep. To forget that evil exists and/or convince you that the only evil that does exist is THIS country.
and...
ONE party (Conservatives/Republicans) want to fight terrorism-and kill it.
To go on the offensive.
To stand up and face off against those that are wanting to kill women and children.
To recognize that REAL evil exists, and to fight against it.
To fight for freedom, to fight for the innocent. To fight for liberty. To fight for a better world.
In short.
One party that truly believes the term...
WE WILL NEVER FORGET.
The choice is clear.
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