THE CRYIN' 'COUNTSY'

Countsy says::

“”””Priceless. Attacking my grammar? And that determines anything about me as a story artist?””

Oh sweet lil miss. I wasn’t “attacking your grammar”. I said LONG ago that I rarely will ever do that. Because in the heat of the debate everyone makes a mistake or misspells something. So it’s not even worth noting. I was talking about your phrasing. It was like you had TWO different thoughts on two different subjects strewn together and it didn’t make any sense. That just underlines that story guys aren’t always the best writers.

Here let me help you out:

Countsy should have said::

“””Sure! ‘Storyboard’ isn’t the biggest of the blogs out there, but it DOES get more than its fair share of traffic. People from all walks of life visit the site. Everyone from your average Joe on the street to the best of the best in the art and animation fields. The very people that you would HOPE would visit.

Yes. I banned Handel. Why? Because he offends me. And now no one can benefit from his OH SO SUPREME KNOWLEDGE, and THAT just has to kill that egotistical bastard.

And he has the nerve to call US thin-skinned. HA!!”””

You see what I did there? I just cleaned up the phrasing a little bit. It’s not perfect, but it IS a little easier to understand and a lil bit more fun to read too. Just takes a little practice. Now for a rebuttal.

Handel says::

Yeah, sure countsy. The blog is a fun one. Even if it IS nothing more than a show and applaud gallery. There isn’t a thing wrong with that. As far as being banned from the comments section, I stopped posting in everyone’s blogs long looong ago. (Before I even knew I WAS ‘banned’ really). Why? So that in the very small amount of time that I have to do so, I could post in my own. I’m not offended by you banning me. Really and twully! Cross my heart. Ban away, oh master of free speech.

But make no mistake about it. You are most DEFINITLEY thin-skinned. You are. You cry the loudest when someone challenges you on any number of subjects. You like to dish it REAL hard. But…like so many on your end, you can rarely take a good shot without squealing like a stuck pig. Then its “boo hoo..others are being big ole meanies”.

It’s amazing what a walking contradiction you are. Sadly, its infectious (poor robo).

Lastly counts, when you say::: “””…You float above us all”””.

No, I don’t float above ALL counts. But, most definitely YOU.

WOW! I even beat MYSELF in a debate! Crap!! Dude, you should just give up and go kill yourself.

Till then, take care!

Big ole kissies for the artist formerly known as "robo"

Awesome post! Twuly.
had everything in it. drama and pathos!
Sex and Violence.
Starsky and Hutch
Lavern and Shirly.
Even a kitchen sink.
EVERYthing you could ask for...unless you want the truth, or facts.
First off countsy my lil tom boy, I wasnt "picking a fight" with the artist formerly known as "robo". I was merely answering what I thought was a thoughtfull post from him awhile back. Now back to your corner youngster.(pat pat pat on the bottom).

Hi robo:)

Well here we are..just you...just me. sigh......kinda cozy huh? double sigh.
"classic Handel silliness"? hmmm.. Well I do admit that some of it is retread and yes it gets tiring doing re-tread. But I find that when talking with you or countsy..there is so much embarrasing stuff that you guys have done that you unfortunatly cant slap the "reset" button on and start over. And since I have EVERY ONE of those posts (well just about) saved....your best bet would be to ...(I GUESS) rewrite history.
Such is the case with the whole, "ban him" thing. What your saying is puuuuure "DOMO MAREE POOO-POOOO , MR RO- BOOOO HHOOO! . And ya know it. And I hate that. What digs under my patootie more than anything is when someone is being dishonest with themselves. REALLY REALLY trying to convince themselves of something. You said BAN HIM during a time when I wasnt even 'critiquing' anything art wise. My response was basically to something countsy said..about "freedom of speech". I believe YOUR eloquent response to me and another poster was "ban him", and "....its your blog count, if they dont like what your saying they can fuck off." (Or something to that effect.) Which was beautiful-cuz it curved right into the point I was making at the time. Again...thank you.
And when you say that I was "annonymous". Do you mean because it said "annonymous", or does that count even NOW that I have this lovley lil ol Handel? hmmmm.
In anycase, you can remember it any way you like to remember it. Anyway that makes it easier to wake up in the morning and look in the mirror and say: "yeah..I didnt contradict myself...and my friends are too stupid to go back and look to see what was said. clear and easy".
BUT, as you say-enough of that.

robo says:
""I have a lot to do. I'm working a ............................""

That made me laugh so hard I..I may have pee'd myself...just a lil bit.
I felt like you were standing at a chalk line scrunching your lil face and trying with all your might to PEE as FAAAAAAAAAAAAAAR as you can. ((scrunchy scrunchy)).
Dudster...yo..I'm GLAD your busy dude. I AM! I want'cha to be! PLEASE, dont think otherwise. And with that, I'll move on. :) I see no point right now to scrunch my face and PEE. perhaps in the future. But for right now, as in the past, I am confident and I am secure.
(Not that I havent been known to pee every now and then..but right now, I'm good, thanks.)

I got another lil chuckly when I read the whole..." " "he does his typical Handel-thing by basically saying "I don't write angry rants, YOU do!"""
Nope! I just respond in kind. And mind you mr robo, Most of my knock down drag outs are usually with countsy. Not you. You dont really get involved in the "debate on the real world" type of stuff. Remember? You're more the "i'll sit and listen", type. (YOUR words, not mine).
Again, I respond in kind. I mean really, its as if you havent HEARD some of the stuff that countsy and rickart and the rest of the bots say. But then, its just laughed off. I dont mind because then I just b----slap him around. But then you guys cry about it. I tell ya...If I am the "blog troll" then you guys are the lil princely guy from monte pythons holy grail! You know the lil efeminite guy that ...."I just waannt tooo siiiiiiiiiiiing."
If you sallies wanna bring it. coo'. Just dont go crying like a bunch of nancies when someone challenges you in the SAME tone.
robo says:

"""You seem to be rather irritated at me and Count, so you rant rather angrily about us.""
Irritated?.Oh I dont know..quite honestly, you two are pretty much the typical glass jawed lefty art guys. In some ways its funny. And in others ways its annoying. 'freedom of speech(EXCEPT FOR YOU!!). 'Crits welcome(UNLESS THEY'RE UNFLATTERING!). 'Anonomous' is not acceptable (UNLESS YOUR REALLY REALLY NICE TO ME!)'
The list is endless.

Your lil talk on 'chips and loopsy'. """Personally, I think this sTatement is a bit of a reach, and was said in an attempt to get a rise out of me, or perhaps hurt me."""

No. Not trying to get a 'rise out of you' OR hurt you. Any more than you saying that I write long bitter angry pistol to my head lonely rants" (ha) was meant to hurt me or get a rise out of me. I take it as what YOU feel. Nothing more, and nothing less. My view on your strip as I've stated to you quite upfront and as honestly as I could....It is not MY cup o' noodles. Its not. SURE I laugh from time to time. But its pretty much the same 'tone'.
Is there an audience for it. Obviously. Your doing a hell of a job entertaining your back of the room pals, and some guys that are wanting to get into the industry. All that AND having a great time of it. Nutin wrong with that at all, man! Go nutty!! Crappers pippy longstockins, go DOUBLE NUTTY!
For me..uh uh. Its just not my thing. And thats fine. I sometimes tune in to see the execution of certain things. And then dont check back for awhile due to busy, busy. My calling it a 'rant' was more meaning that its pretty...well..(.dont poot yourself now)..pretty one dimensional. Yes, Yes you have the duck and yes, yes...he has a wife and theres a bunny that cusses and and and...
ok.
But....to me I think of it like a bit o music....with the same beat over and over and over. Or like a hack and slash movie thats pretty much the same thing over and over and over.
NOW! As you say..maybe this is just a lil joy ride for you. Just to make yourself and your workbuddies giggle. And if thats the case, I guess thats fine. To me....It rings a little like making underarm farts for the boys in the back of the class. But at least its tried and true.
PLEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEASE, dont assume that I'm taking a stab at you on this. I told you way back when..taint my sort of thing. I would feel different if it were more textured. And that would make the humor pop a little more.
And if you still think that THATS a "bit of a reach"...well....get it away from your dumbass friends and show it to others for some fresh perspectives.

robo:""""Well, you did succeed at making me go "Huh???"""
Well hopefully I've cleared it up for you. I dont want you scratching your head TOO long on it."whut duh hee meeeeeeeeeeeeeen?"

robo hollas:"""I don't think that youve been unfair. Creepy, obsessive and obnoxious""
well..WHO says we dont have much in common!? HERE HERE!

robo says::""but dude, your "crits" are a cool breeze compared to an old teacher I had by the name of Phil Steel. THAT guy gave harsh critiques"""

Uhhh,,ok. good, good.
But Its like I've BEEN SAYING! They have NOT been unfair to you. NOT been out of spite or meeeeeeeaness. OR Overtly nasty. They have been nothing, but a cool breeze..I like that.
Which makes the fact that your squealing like a lil mary all the more silly.
So knock it off already.
I look forward to the rest of your post. Tried to post in the kagematch (also known as Countsy blog #563), But got denied.:(
So I go hear...Less spineless whiny weenies in here. Nothing but us he-men wussy haters in here.
Till nxt time robo---I'll bring the corn.

DAVE COCKRUM ( 1943-2006 )

DAVE COCKRUM
(Nov 11, 1943 - Nov 26, 2006)




DAVE COCKRUM PASSES AWAY

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According to several sources, legendary X-Men and comic book artist Dave Cockrum passed away in his sleep last night, his death a result of diabetes and its resultant complications. He was 63 years old.
While his Legion work is widely known to Legion fans, Cockrum will forever be known as the artist who, with Len Wein, and later with Chris Claremont, created the new X-Men, and redefined both the existing characters and revitalized the world of the mutants and the franchise for Marvel. Cockrum had two major stints as artist on Uncanny X-Men, from Giant-Size X-Men #1 in 1975 through 1977, and then from 1981-1983.

"Newsarama"
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HANDELS NOTE.

For anyone growing up in the 70's who was even remotlely interested in comic books, you had your share of great GREAT artists. Surely some of the cream of the crop in super critters were:
Gil Kane, Neal Adams, Ross Andru, John Romita, and ......Dave Cockrum.

Dave Cockrum Died yesterday morning. Due to complications from diabetes. Dave was a fantastic guy. Down to earch, Humble and just an all around accessible person. He was you and me. He was a fan of the medium. And the fans of the medium loved Dave Cockrum.
Now I'm sure that there are those out there that arent familiar with anyone predating Jim Lee, So have no idea of who Dave is. In a nutshell, Dave Cockrum is responsible for the Creation of the modern day X-men. Starting with Giant size X-MEN #1 (which I own, thank you very much) and for characters such as "Nightcrawler", "Storm", "Collusus", And "Phoenix","Thunderbird", "mystique", "the Brood" and "StarJammers".
And while not the FIRST artist to draw 'Wolverine',(HERB TRIMPE Hulk 180-181, circ1974), Cockrum was the first to draw him in the way he's been drawn (for the most part) for the past 30 years.
Comic book Accomplishments that are indeed rather on the huge side.
Unfortunatly, like so many comic creators working at that time, as in the golden age...Dave didnt have the knowledge or the foresight to see what impact those characters...HIS characters, would have on the entertainment world.
As with Seigal and Shuster...you had people, both comic book creators AND fans that came to his defense and with a spotlight on Marvel that was NOT altogether positive, Marvel settled with Dave Cockrum on his royalties.
Dave had been sick off and on for some time and in 2004, the comic world was stunned to see just how sick he was. Diabetes. The mounting costs of treatment and lack of ducket had made things pretty tough, And his many fans and peers held a benefit for him to help out someone who'se work inspired them and will continue to inspire.

Sadly, Yesterday morning, (monday the 26th) at the age of 63, Dave Cockrum passed away in his sleep.

So passes a GREAT ARTIST and more importantly a GREAT, GREAT MAN. To be always remembered through countless stories from friends and family, and TONS of truly beautiful artwork, in panels, strewn together to make what we call....Comics.

God bless ya Dave Cockrum. And my prayers and heart go out to your loving family.
Thank you.

RESPONSE TO THE RECENTLY DECEASED 'ROBO' (PART TWO).

Robo says::

“””I keep politics out of Chipps and Loopus for a reason. I want their world to feel like their world, not ours. I go out of my way not to reference pop culture or politics in the strip. I am a big fan of Walt Kelly, and he mixed politics into his strip all the time, to the detrement of the strip at times. Many have said that the politics in Pogo tainted that little world forever, and that is why I stay out of it in "Chippy and Loopus."”””

Well! A moment of agreement. I think that it’s a wise choice. UNLESS you’re whole thrust is pretty much a political cartoon. Where it IS what it is. Even the ones that do it REALLY, REALLY WELL, it still kinda bothers me. No matter what the slant. It always reminds me of a cameo of a star that’s just in the movie for like a split second..(ala Christian Slater in the star trek movie….bugged the crap outta me!). It’s just a mental speed bump and assumes wrongly that everyone is gonna think you’re the bees knees in being clever. When it’s just being arrogant and narcissistic. COUGH! COUGH! COUNTSY! COUGH! COUGH!!!

Lastly,

Robo says:::

“”””I know who you are, and you know I know, so let's drop the coy double talk. Don't worry, I won't "out you" so just calm down. “””

Again, I don’t know how else to be more clear. You assume that I’m worried. Somehow a’shakin in muh boots <<<”so just calm down”>>>. At the thought of being “outted”.

Tell me, robo…..even countsy who we can safely say, pretty much can’t stand me, even HE doesn’t think I’m stupid. Do YOU think that I would come into this thing and say the things that I say, in the manner that I say them. Straight from the gut, and not think that someone, SOMEWHERE wouldn’t know who I am?

Of course not.

Do I care?

Of course not.

We both know it’s really not that big of an industry. We, no doubt know many of the same people.

You may or may not know me or at the least, know who I am. Let’s return to my original question. How have I been unfair to YOU? Yeah….I’ve called you out on a few issues. Yeah, I’ve been in debate with you about art issues, and I have also been complimentary towards you. I’ve been honest with you, both in crit and compliment.

If you DON’T know who I am, then go back to one of my waaaaaaaay earlier posts, where I say that you will know me by my posts. You will. I will be honest with people. About their work, (if they are posting) or their philosophies from art to politic to ANYTHING. I WILL do my very best to be honest with people. Countsy is a monkey ass, but a very, VERY talented monkey ass. I can say that. And it aint even hard, sweetheart. Because it’s the truth, and I have to be honest enough to myself to say it. AND admit when I’m wrong. You still have me pondering something these many months later. And I’ll get around to that, Later.

NOW! THAT SAID,

IF you DO know who I am, then all you have to do is look into my past, and tell me if what I have had to say is anything that I wouldn’t tell anyone. Be it a friend or be it a foe.

Would I have it in me to say it. No matter to whom, if it were what I observed it to be or felt it needed to be said. If I believed it was important enough to say. IF I believed it to be the TRUTH.

If you DO know who I am, then I think you would have to come to the conclusion,

‘Yeah….he would.’

Maybe that’s the thing…I wont needlessly pet someone for pettings sake. I will always TRY to be honest with them. Whether I know them or not. I owe it to them to be so.

But trust me when I say this robo, and I mean this with all my grisly blackened heart.

I don’t care WHO knows who I am. Let me say that in Spanish just in case you’re of the Latino descent.

“”Los pies huelen como los monos hacen””

Or of the French descent:

“”Hé le marin est que mes fesses que vous mâchez sur ?”””

Maybe German descent:

“”Meine pepperoni Brustwarzen sind spur mit Vorahnung””

And what the heck, so there is no confussion, just in case you’re an IIII-TALION:

“”””Prego, la faccia di conti somiglia al mio pooper su un giorno pruriginoso.”””

So please..dont think otherwise. Feel free to spread the word if you like. It ISNT I who is afraid of not being invited to the Starbucks to laugh at fat people. Somehow…I…I think I will carry on

My confidence is high, and

My priorities are elsewhere.

I think I’ve answered your post. Although I WOULD still like to know where you feel I’ve been unfair to you. I really am curious. So do tell me if you like. I mean, it’s not as if I’ve said anything to you that’s just OUTRAGEOUS! Or said anything to you like: “ “”You SIR, are a punk a@@, hairy back Martha, jerk weed, camel nose, retarded, stinkwad, weevil bottomed, baboon a@@, noodlespined, sissy of a Nancy boy, bill clinton, hack of a toad testis, flaccid, weenie, anal gland, turdball, pansy that stinks of beck Bristow penis.

Because THEN you would have a legitimate beef with me. Because it’s not true, and I would be speaking a falsehood. And besides, ‘countsy’ already HAS dibbs on that name, and I cant give it to the BOTH of you.

OH and let me say for the record, that I really am glad that you are at the pixie!! I was praying for ya, during that bout. I really do think it will be great for you and that you will learn and hopefully do something that I think is hard to do at Disney for a story guy…GROW. So hopefully they will kick your assy, cuz you need to delearn all the butt gags, and get back to…well…making good stories.

And you will..cuz you good.

I wish you well robo. Believe it or not, I don’t wish ‘countsy’ any ill will either. I hope nothing but the best for ya both! With that, I will say I hope you had good turkey day. Although you are a lefty so I hope you had good tofurky day, and I wish you a fantastic Christmas! (Although you are a lefty, but sorry, I just cant bring myself to say happy ‘winter solstice’—again, ssssssssssssssssssorry.)

Hip hop le hibby to da hibby.

Outta here.

RESPONSE TO THE RECENTLY DECEASED ROBO (PART ONE)

Hiya Robo.

Well its been awhile. Busy busy, busy. You know how it is.

I’m way behind on the many things that I’ve needed to write about. On that long list of things was a proper response to your post (way back in august on ‘countsy’s’ carnival blog.) And while you were a little farther down the line on the list, I DID want to get to you before things got crazy busy again.

Firstly, thanks for your post. I appreciate it…I do. Now, TO your post. I get the feeling as though you think I’ve been unfair to you in some way. I’ll come back to that in a second.

But to the specifics of your post: You quote me:

“”Handel sez:

"I don’t care if you and ‘countsy’ are friends. Not in the least!"

and robo says::

“””You say this, and yet your actions prove to be contrary. You may not care, and you may be a happy-go -lucky guy who is happy with his life and his family, and yet your actions are those of a warped frustrated old man….Guys who sit around and write angry rants on the internet are generally lonely bitter guys. Once again, you say that you do not fit this description, and yet in word and deed, you do.”””

Well robo, You believe what you want. But mind you, I didn’t even HAVE a blog before I came across yours and countsy’s blog. Of which I was met with the typical hostility that is trademark of the left. It was even YOU who said “BAN HIM”, and that was to the very mild criticism to countsy’s BS on ‘free speech’, and I said it was the left that preaches ‘free speech’ and then does everything it can to squelch it. I thought you by saying “BAN HIM” was SUCH a lovely illustration at just the right time. I thank you.

Again, You and countsy had a great deal of a head start on the ‘blog thing’ long before I came in, writing your own “ angry rants”. And that was fine then! Oh yes it was. Why? Hmmmm, was it because you were all engaged in a mutual thought, pet-athon? AAAAAND utterly UNchallenged. Well sure it was. Then and only then is writing angry rants on the internet a fine and dandy thing. And I would be careful with your terms and definitions about “guys who sit around writing angry rants…bitter LOOOONLY guys.”” I mean after all, what is your strip, but one loooooong bitter angry rant.

Comon robo, do you mean to tell me that countsy’s postings which far outnumber MINE are NOT angry rants? Is HE a “bitter, lonely, warped man”? Of course you would say no. because he’s your amigo, compadre, ((siiiiiigh))soulmate (in a non ‘broke back’ way of course…although I don’t really know ya both so I cant assume either way.)

Its just inconsistent robo…Not really surprised by it. But it IS what it is.

But if you want to see me in that light, well what can I say? I look around me and I see nothing but goodness. A life truly blessed. The fact that lil ole ME makes all of you lefties a little crazy…well…that’s just puddin’ sugah….just puddin’.

But STILL, back to you…where have I been UNFAIR to you. You’re mad because I have the gall to challenge you and countsy on any NUMBER of issues? Is THAT it?

Hmmm if that IS it then its pretty shallow ground you stand on. Seriously…tell me where I’ve been unfair to you. I would really like to know.

You quote me as saying:

"I’ve found it fascinating to watch YOU be loud on some issues and yet oddly silent on other issues. “Why?” I wondered….I pressed you on it and came to the conclusion that you just might have differing opinions than the rest of your crew….yet chose to be silent. Because you maybe what?....felt uncomfortable being…the ‘odd man out’ as well?"

and then robo says:

“””Which issues? Religeon? Hey, when the time comes, I'll throw my 2 cents in. This is an issue that is difficult to discuss in this day and age. What I did say on the issue was that I wondered why so many got the wrong idea about Christianity. I know of a few reasons. Like I said, when Count brings it up, I'll throw in. The last time he brought it up, I did a lot of listening in order to figure out what everyone was upset about.”””

Right robo..You’ll throw your two cents in. When? “when the time comes”. That’s what I thought. So I waited. I’m a people watcher. I’m just curious to see what they say and when they say it….I was curious on YOUR views of the subject. I knew countsy’s and it pretty much was what I thought it would be, bigoted, stupid, insipid, ignorant and smelling of bad cheese. Your typical thoughtless lefty.

But YOU robo…I wanted to hear from you. And so I waited and continued to wait…sifting through countsy’s and then rickarts silliness…waiting.

Nothin’.

YOU who were not too shy usually about piping up.((chirp, chirp, chirp)) It’s often said that when so many are shouting that the one voice that is the loudest is the one that is silent.

You were silent.

Which piqued my curiosity sompin fierce!

So I asked you a question…(POKE)

And another question…(POKE, POKE).

And I got a lil insight….(POKE, POKE, POKE}

And Then I knew that I had struck pay dirt.

YOU didn’t pipe in, or as you say “throw your 2 cents in”, and you wouldn’t have EVER piped in unless I pushed you. Unless I poked you out of your cone of silence. Turns out you might have a little different view (not by much maybe), than that of countsy, and the other bots. So it’s safer to be silent. Let it pass. After all, lunch is at the ‘smokehouse’ tomorrow and why rock the boat.

WHEN prodded…you then come out but then try and alter it as much as possible to still seem…oh I dunno…palatable to the wing nuts. (Remember the ‘smokehouse’. remember the ‘smokehouse’).

Some such sillyness about Bush and …..etc, etc.

But as you say….I know it’s a tough issue to talk about, especially in the world we work in. And its not always comfy. ESPECIALLY when you hear your pals bashing it to the hilt ---oh and they were. Hard! And yet….

How was lunch by the way? Good, I’m sure.

Robo says::

“””and I’m not the lefty you think I am”””

dude…I don’t care really what you are. As long as it’s for real. Countsy is a jack ass, fine. You’re a lefty, whatever. I can deal with all that. As long as I know that what I’m dealing WITH is for real.

You quote me as saying:

“”And sticking to my beliefs and values even if that means clashing heads with a lot of the people around me””

Robo says::

“””””Good for you, but on this issue, you have no idea what you are talking about. I recently lost a job because I wouldn't roll over and agree with what everyone said.”””

Ok robo. Let me put this to you bluntly…but as clearly as I can. Everything that I’m talking about there has to do WITH REAL LIFE!! NOT THE FRIGGIN CARTOONS! NOT TALKING SQUIRRELS AND DANCING FARTING BUNNIES!!

REAL LIFE, YA KNOW? THE STUFF THAT MATTERS?

Look, I’m sorry you lost your job over whatever. I can only imagine how that conversation went:

Director: “no, no I think that he should just drop his pants.”

Robo: “NO! NO! NO! It would have the cinematic PUNCH we’re looking for, the emotional pull if you will, if he farted a little while the pants fell.”

Director: “hmmm..nooooo I think we did that the last three films robo. Let’s return to the basics, okee doke?”

Robo: NO! We’ll move the camera and have an upshot of the pants and THEN the fart! THE CROWD WILL LOVE IT!

Director: “I…”

Robo: “&^%$# YOU! IT’S FART WAY OR THE HIGH WAY!!PISS PISS! CRAP! HAMSTERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!!!”

I mean really…If you lost your job, I’m sorry about that. I knew that you would bounce back. I did. And I’m glad you did, sincerely. BUT if you are equating what I’m saying about “beliefs and values” to your JOB. Then you have a problem with priorities. And that’s HUGE.

THERES COBWEBS IN HERE!!

Been away for awhile...busy busy busy! Bout' to make a return though. Lots to say..A tribute, some upcoming stuff and of course my heart to heart response (late in coming..busy busy) to a seemingly now deceased 'robo'. (havent forgotton about it.)
coming soon.